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Post by [dannehpoot] on Feb 4, 2006 9:59:58 GMT
i dont see why the UN is trying to stop iran from developing nuclear weapons, its just a way to protect themselves and develop as a nation.
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Post by carter on Feb 4, 2006 20:36:20 GMT
Ever thought that the chances of another Muslim-Extremest getting in charge are quite possible and if it does happen he could blow up parts of American and most of England?
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Post by [dannehpoot] on Feb 4, 2006 21:52:36 GMT
I see that, but i also see a country on its verge of development, every country has had it. Especially in this day and age we see something major from muslim countrys and weapons of mass destruction.
But its part of the UN, so they shouldnt be aiming at anyone.
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Post by Tomson on Feb 22, 2006 20:35:37 GMT
if we let iran build bombs or woteva expect gulf war 3 espescially with the world top leaders corrupting everything. Iran is a muslim country and will have extremists who will use these weapons to his own shity need
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Post by analmunchkin on Feb 24, 2006 13:16:58 GMT
Lol well basically ONE average nuclear weapon these days, if plaed in the middle of the UK would take out the entire country cos we're so small. Iran is a developing country, but since we kept gettin involved earlier on trying to force them to industrialise and forcing them to accept the leaders we picked for them they have a very good reason to hold a grudge. Because of that grudge we kinda have to look out for our own interests.... in this case making sure they dont have a single nuke, which would wipe us out. Gulf War 3 btw, we just had the second Just letting you know.
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Post by [dannehpoot] on Feb 24, 2006 14:42:53 GMT
lol, i do agree that we should make a giant sheild to protect us from nuclear weapons....i can see it now, A HUGE BUBBLE AROUND THE UK! awesome....but iran is developing and we should not stop them.
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Post by Name$ - Ca$H on Feb 24, 2006 23:52:23 GMT
if a neclear bomb was 2 go off it would affect the world i think there souldnt be any anywhere!!
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Post by analmunchkin on Feb 26, 2006 17:49:46 GMT
The reason the cold war existed and never happened in effect was because each side had nukes. Basically every country now has nukes and is afraid to launch any in a war cos everyone would destroyt them. If one nuke is launched then everyone will kill each other, BUT if any country gets rid of their nuclear arsenal they know that they are an easy target for anyone who dislikes them that also has nukes.
Western countries are all trying to disarm while eastern countries are buying the ones we promise to get rid of. So as we are disarming they are getting stronger. However everyone wants to keep some nukes so we can deter others from attacking us.
Every country should be allowed to develop, but at its natural pace. Because we forced the arabic nations to industrialise before they were ready we also forced them to abolish their religion. This gave rise to fundamentalism and recession when we withdrew our support, and we basically fucked up their countries. Which is why September 11th happened, and why there is still so much hostility now.
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Post by Kazuya on Feb 27, 2006 21:28:33 GMT
It is a difficult situation. There remains no solid proof Iran is actually building these weapons but they arent being very open about what they are doing but it begs the question why should they? Why should they have to justify themselves to others?
On the other hand, what have they got to hide?
I seriously doubt this will really go anywhere through. Everyone seems to forget they tried to build them before. Israel simply bombed all the instillations without any UN backing.
There seems a fear of terrorist getting hold of WMD but I think a lot of people miss the real picture. Not all nukes have the ability to wipe a city off the earth. Thats only the extremely powerful ones. The ones you would need a silo to launch from. I seriously doubt any extremeist have the power to do that.
I have little doubt this will be resolved. The one thing we are good at is telling other how to run their countries.
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Post by analmunchkin on Mar 1, 2006 16:16:37 GMT
Not all nukes have the ability to wipe a city off the earth. Thats only the extremely powerful ones. The ones you would need a silo to launch from. Just one issue there, the Hiroshima bomb was 15 killtonnes, which wiped an entire city off the map. On average now most bombs are anywhere from 1-10 megatons, and are able to be dropped from planes, launched from silos and ships and even in a truck or car bomb, since hte massively reduced size of them since the original manhatten project. Just look what a 15k bomb did to the city of Hiroshima, then imagine a bomb 10x more powerful. The chances of getting hold of the components are actually quite high, all you need is a large bank balance, and you can bribe american officials to sell you them. Or in times of peace they don't even need bribing! YAY!
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Post by Kazuya on Mar 2, 2006 23:09:47 GMT
Just one issue there, the Hiroshima bomb was 15 killtonnes, which wiped an entire city off the map. On average now most bombs are anywhere from 1-10 megatons, and are able to be dropped from planes, launched from silos and ships and even in a truck or car bomb, since hte massively reduced size of them since the original manhatten project. Indeed it did, however in case you hadnt noticed one of the most advanced countries in the world was developing it. Iran can hardly develop roads. And while there are all the ways to use one you mentioned Iran hasnt got any silos, ships or planes. So unless they plan to drive a truck to America with a fucking huge bomb in the back and hope they dont get noticed Im not to bothered. Even trying to move these things is very noticable seeing as their absolutly huge. The sort of one that took out Hiroshima would weight around 10 -15 tons. Its not easy to move these things around, even harder without being seen. The smallest one ever developed weighed around 50 stone.
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Post by analmunchkin on Mar 3, 2006 0:07:44 GMT
Well Iran has got planes and ships, and it MAY have silos, which can easily be disguised from surveillance craft (that America constantly police the world with ) using factories, doors covered with dirt etc, like in THunderbirds! THe majority of silos are underground and very hard to find (after all you dont want your enemy to bomb them, cos youd have a nuke going off in your country!). Thats what the problem is, they want to see if Iran is developing and hiding nukes. And the reason they can't afford roads is due the terrible economy and corrupt government, with Iran as a nation spending more on weapons in a year than transport. Now why do they want the weapons You don't even need the technology to make them now though, you can buy the parts, they are readily available these days. As more countries disarm their nuclear arsenals they have more trouble with where to place it due to environmental laws in their countries. America especially sells them to middle-eastern countries to have them "disposed of" there. And they wonder why there is so much trouble.....
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Post by Siobhan on Mar 3, 2006 8:18:15 GMT
Not all nukes have the ability to wipe a city off the earth. Thats only the extremely powerful ones. The ones you would need a silo to launch from. Just one issue there, the Hiroshima bomb was 15 killtonnes, which wiped an entire city off the map. On average now most bombs are anywhere from 1-10 megatons, and are able to be dropped from planes, launched from silos and ships and even in a truck or car bomb, since hte massively reduced size of them since the original manhatten project. Just look what a 15k bomb did to the city of Hiroshima, then imagine a bomb 10x more powerful. The chances of getting hold of the components are actually quite high, all you need is a large bank balance, and you can bribe american officials to sell you them. Or in times of peace they don't even need bribing! YAY! Not only did it do that to the city, it also killed people from the inside out (like a microwave) and affected people that were born years later, from the radiation that was still around.. a bomb 10 times worse than that would totally abliterate evrything around and naff up the world for years to come
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Post by wildwackysid on Apr 21, 2006 17:01:24 GMT
this all terrorist thing does my headin! i'm muslim but ppl have this narrow minded view of all of us. you see someone on the street with a beard and a hat an automatically they are a terrorist talk about having an I.Q of a two year old!! lol. because of a few hand full of dick heads blew them selfs up we all get blamed for the thing. and i was watching this program the other day called 30 days and this dude from Christian background lived as a muslim for 30 days he went on this radio talk show and this dude was sayng that we should apologize for 9/11. that was a tragic day but why should we apologize, if we did it'll we would be accepting the fact that we did it. its soo stupid! coz of a small majority of ppl did it we all get blamed! i no this is besides the point. you think of iraq and o0o0o0 terrorist, war, car bombs comes to mind. wot about the ppl who live there we are suffering. women can't step out of the house without getting raped. *media we had this discussion lol* and they were saying o0o00o they got weapons of mass destruction but they didn't find any and then they said its human rights and invaded iraq because of the acts tat happened in the 1980's why invade now why not then?? and wot about china they have the worse human rights ratings over there but you dun see no one going in there "rescuing them" at the end of the day they want the oil! think about wars start because of oil and money!they dun give shit about anyone else and the army has no idea why they there so they just follow orders! and the media just conveys news reports of ruthless acts that gets everyone fired up! they just want the story media also manipulates they way we think. we can;t get away everywhere we go there is some way of media getting to us. next tie when you talk about terrorist just think about wot ur saying and keep a open mind!...lol went off the whoooole issue then!
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Post by [dannehpoot] on Apr 21, 2006 19:15:23 GMT
heres a great quote.... "just because most terrorists are muslim, doesnt mean most muslims are terrorists"
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